. it looks like all the incentive for obama, after they are saying the world's going to come to an end and running around with their hair on fire, they better make this as bad as they can make tinstead of managing it for the least effect, when have you a 21% increase in the payroll for civilians at the defense department, why do you talk about cutting back aircraft carriers? there is a real fear in my mind that the administration's political agenda is, try to make this look as bad as it can, where everybody else has ever been faced with this, try to do the least impact possible because it is not a big number. sequester's a bad system. that's not the right way to do it. but look, it was obama's idea -- >> shannon: which he says it wasn't. but jack lew, the idea allegedly bubbled through him. but the president will say that congress came up with tthey have to solve it. >> the fact of the matter is -- i don't want to say the truth, it was the white house's idea. the other important fact is in the last year, republicans in the house have twice passed legislation to do away with the sequest